{"id":4816,"date":"2018-11-11T09:13:41","date_gmt":"2018-11-11T00:43:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/exitinternational.net\/?p=4816"},"modified":"2018-11-11T09:13:41","modified_gmt":"2018-11-11T00:43:41","slug":"euthanasia-pioneer-nitschke-warns-of-beg-and-grovel-legislation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euthanasia.net\/exit\/euthanasia-pioneer-nitschke-warns-of-beg-and-grovel-legislation\/","title":{"rendered":"Euthanasia Pioneer Nitschke warns of &#8216;beg and grovel&#8217; legislation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A proposed law to\u00a0allow voluntary death\u00a0for the terminally\u00a0ill has been labelled\u00a0&#8220;beg and grovel&#8221; legislation by euthanasia pioneer Dr Philip Nitschke.<\/p>\n<p>The first doctor to administer euthanasia,\u00a0Nitschke\u00a0is holding public talks and instructional workshops on the subject with his pro-euthanasia group Exit International this week.<\/p>\n<p>On Thursday, about 30 members gathered in a\u00a0meeting room behind\u00a0St Andrew&#8217;s church in Wellington to discuss in detail how to end their lives.<\/p>\n<p>Nitschke\u00a0said\u00a0all adults had a right to choose death\u00a0and,\u00a0 as populations aged, there were increasingly compelling social reasons to want to die.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This idea of waiting around till you&#8217;re satisfying some very exhaustive and stringent requirements of levels of sickness, is going to be shown to be\u00a0wanting.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Parliament is currently considering the\u00a0End of Life Choice bill, with the last of more than 3000 public oral submissions\u00a0being heard\u00a0on Monday.<\/p>\n<p>The bill would allow New Zealanders aged 18 and older who suffer from a terminal illness likely to end their life within six months, or a grievous and untreatable medical condition, to choose an assisted death.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That is a\u00a0privilege granted, that is not a right &#8230;\u00a0I call it the &#8216;beg and grovel&#8217; legislation,&#8221; Nitschke said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You have to go and see a panel of doctors and convince them you&#8217;re sick enough &#8230;\u00a0that is, in the case of many of the laws we see,\u00a0when you&#8217;re almost dead.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t get the idea that you&#8217;re in control, because you&#8217;re not in control.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Nitschke\u00a0said there should only be two criteria to permit euthanasia: if a person was an adult, so they could understand the permanence of death, and that they were of sound mind.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t have to give a reason, it&#8217;s a right to have these drugs.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Exit International members have faced considerable scrutiny in recent years, with Wellington members\u00a0stopped in a police breath-testing checkpoint after a meeting in 2016. The checkpoint was later deemed unjustified by the Independent Police Conduct Authority.<\/p>\n<p>Wellington branch chairwoman\u00a0Susan Austen\u00a0was\u00a0in May found guilty\u00a0 on two charges of importing pet\u00a0euthaniser\u00a0pentobarbitone, after being acquitted of aiding the suicide of another member,\u00a0Annemarie\u00a0Treadwell.<\/p>\n<p>To prevent any legal issues on Thursday, attendees\u00a0signed a disclaimer confirming they would not take any notice of the information Nitschke was providing and would not record the workshop.<\/p>\n<p>Meetings will be held in Nelson on Saturday, and Auckland on Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>Police are aware of the Nitschke workshops, but a spokeswoman declined to answer further questions.<\/p>\n<p>Act MP David Seymour,\u00a0responsible for the End of Life Choice bill, warned against an approach to euthanasia that sat outside strict safeguards in law.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think that you should be able to help someone end their life for social reasons &#8230;\u00a0I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s right to help somebody end their life unless you have very strict oversight,\u00a0because if you don&#8217;t have all the various safeguards like in the End of Life Choice bill, then\u00a0there is a possibility of abuse.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A proposed law to\u00a0allow voluntary death\u00a0for the terminally\u00a0ill has been labelled\u00a0&#8220;beg and grovel&#8221; legislation by euthanasia pioneer Dr Philip Nitschke. The first doctor to administer euthanasia,\u00a0Nitschke\u00a0is holding public talks and instructional workshops on the subject with his pro-euthanasia group Exit International this week. On Thursday, about 30 members gathered in a\u00a0meeting room behind\u00a0St Andrew&#8217;s church [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v15.9.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.euthanasia.net\/exit\/euthanasia-pioneer-nitschke-warns-of-beg-and-grovel-legislation\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Euthanasia Pioneer Nitschke warns of &#039;beg and grovel&#039; legislation - Exit International\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"A proposed law to\u00a0allow voluntary death\u00a0for the terminally\u00a0ill has been labelled\u00a0&#8220;beg and grovel&#8221; legislation by euthanasia pioneer Dr Philip Nitschke. 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